Tuesday, October 23, 2007

More Hillary Clinton Talk

Below is a letter from a Canadian concerning "free" public health:

Hey Guys; I saw on the news up here in Canada where Hillary Clinton introduced her new health care plan. Something similar to what we have in Canada. I also heard that Michael Moore was raving about the health care up here in Canada in his latest movie. As someone who lives with the Canada health care plan I thought I would give you some facts about this great medical plan that we have in Canada. First of all:
1) The health care plan in Canada is not free. We pay a premium every month of $96. For Shirley and I to be covered. Sounds great eh. What they don't tell you is how much we pay in taxes to keep the health care system afloat. I am personally in the 55% tax bracket. Yes 55% of my earnings go to taxes. A large portion of that and I am not sure of the exact amount goes directly to health care our #1 expense.
2) I would not classify what we have as health care plan, it is more like a health diagnosis system. You can get into to see a doctor quick enough so he can tell you "yes indeed you are sick or you need an operation" but now the challenge becomes getting treated or operated on. We have waiting lists out the ying yang some as much as 2 years down the road.
3) Rather than fix what is wrong with you the usual tactic in Canada is to prescribe drugs. Have a pain here is a drug to take- not what is causing the pain and why. No time for checking you out because it is more important to move as many patients thru as possible each hour for Government reimbursement.
4) Many Canadians do not have a family Doctor.
5) Don't require emergency treatment as you may wait for hours in the emergency room waiting for treatment.
6) Shirley's dad cut his hand on a power saw a few weeks back and it required that his hand be put in a splint - to our surprise we had to pay $125 for a splint because it is not covered under health care plus we have to pay $60 for each visit for him to check it out each week.
7) Shirley's cousin was diagnosed with a heart blockage. Put on a waiting list. Died before he could get treatment.
8) Government allots so many operations per year. When that is done no more operations, unless you go to your local newspaper and plead your case and embarrass the government then money suddenly appears.
9) The Government takes great pride in telling us how much more they are increasing the funding for health care but waiting lists never get shorter. Government just keeps throwing money at the problem but it never goes away. But they are good at finding new ways to tax us, but they don't call it a tax anymore it is now a user fee.
10) My mother needs an operation for a blockage in her leg but because she is a smoker they will not do it. Despite her and my father paying into the health care system all these years. My Mom is 80 years of age. Now there is talk that maybe we should not treat fat and obese people either because they are a drain on the health care system. Let me see now, what we want in Canada is a health care system for healthy people only. That should reduce our health care costs.
11) Forget getting a second opinion, what you see is what you get.
12) I can spend what money I have left after taxes on booze, cigarettes, junk food and anything else that could kill me but I am not allowed by law to spend my money on getting an operation I need because that would be jumping the queue. I must wait my turn except if I am a hockey player or athlete then I can get looked at right away. Go figure. Where else in the world can you spend money to kill yourself but not allowed to spend money to get healthy.
13) Oh did I mention that immigrants are covered automatically at tax payer expense having never contributed a dollar to the system and pay no premiums.
14) Oh yeah we now give free needles to drug users to try and keep them healthy. Wouldn't want a sickly druggie breaking into your house and stealing your things. But people with diabetes who pay into the health care system have to pay for their needles because it is not covered but the health care system.
I send this out not looking for sympathy but as the election looms in the states you will be hearing more and more about universal health care down there and the advocates will be pointing to Canada. I just want to make sure that you hear the truth about health care up here and have some food for thought and informed questions to ask when broached with this subject. Step wisely and don't make the same mistakes we have.

Kids, Hillary wants that for us. In this week's US News and World Report as well as in our own local paper a story ran about how the UK's "free" public health is so bad, they are short of dentists who will work on the program and so people are resorting to extracting their own teeth with pliers and using Super Glue to re-attach crowns!!

If you are a Hillary fan, I have one simple question:
She was quoted last night as having said: "I am the most singularly qualified person to be President of the United States".
Name 3 things she has done to "qualify to be President of the United States".
You can't say "good mom, faithful wife and senator of New York" as any woman in America can fill the first two and senator of New York was the easiest election she will ever run, the bluest of the blue states and the wife of a President who lives in the biggest city in that state.
So, tell me what she has done?


mick b; the Anti-Bill said...

According to the information that I've received regarding Mrs. Clinton, the only qualifications that would make her eligible for Commander in Chief is that she's drafted legislation. To a degree, she understands the "old boy" network and appears to be willing to play ball in that particular realm. Other than that, she's a foundationless, political chameleon who believes that government is the answer to our woes.

Tammy Bowers said...

I am not a fan of any candidate who supports the murdering of unborn babies, so it hurts me to answer your question about Hillary's qualifications, because I feel like I am defending her a bit.

Hilary is an attorney, she graduated from Yale. She was politically active as First Lady of Arkansas. She was very politically active as the President's wife for two terms. She lived in the White House, traveled the globe with her husband for peace negotiations and hosted state dinners for incoming dignitaries. She learned a lot of inside scoop about how to play the game. She supported her husband through impeachment hearings, and she testified before the grand jury. Behind every good man is a good woman holding him up. I do think all her experience at her husband's side could help her understand the job she is faced with. If she becomes Commander and Chief, you know Bill will be right there helping her every step of the way.

All of her inside first hand experience has value, but does it make her more qualified than other candidates who have written more legislation than her? I don't know and I don't care. I won't be voting for her.

Bill's Waste of Air said...

Here is the problem:
many Christian Conservatives will as they always do, make their stand on one issue only: Abortion.
That is just fine, and probably Godly, but let's say a pro-abortion candidate wins the Republican nomination. Yet everything else he stands for is pretty close to our stand, do you vote for him or not vote or vote third party as James Dobson is starting to lean?
I stand firm on abortion, it is wrong, but having Hillary Clinton as president is MORE wrong.
If you make your stand on this one issue, you WILL be electing her.
That will be on your conscience not mine.
We Republicans must stand behind whomever is nominated no matter how hard it might be. I am not a Giuliani fan at all, but if he were to win, I WILL stand behind him. I am appalled at Dobson for taking a possible third party stance. He IS electing Hillary that way.
Now, as for Hillary's experience, Tammy those are all good things, but do you really think she was allowed into all the meetings that went on wherever the President went? Did she participate in every decision made? Learning by Osmosis is sometimes good, but to be leader of the Free World and most powerful nation in the World? Not enough.
I will give you, she does know the political "game", but not necessarily the real politics it requires.
Now, if Condeleeza Rice were to run, I would be all over that! She has the kind of foreign policy experience Hillary can't even come close to.

Tammy Bowers said...

Of course she wasn't in those all meetings, but you can bet she drilled Bill on every little detail in the privacy of their bedroom.

As far as the other, no way in H. E. double hockey sticks I will ever vote for anyone who supports the murder of unborn babies. You have the right to disagree with me, but no circumstance will ever cause me to compromise my extreme conviction in this area. If all Christians and pro-lifers banded together on this issue, we could elect a pro-life president in 2008.

Bill's Waste of Air said...

That would be a happy thought but not gonna happen.
Let me give you some more to think about since you WILL be giving the election to one considerably worse than the alternative I have proposed:
according to the Pro-Abortion group NARAL, "we are only one or two Supreme Court votes away from overturning Roe v. Wade".
Now, our next president will be most likely nominating the newest Supreme Court judge. So, I ask again, would you like Hillary to be doing that or a Republican who may not line up squarely with all you believe in? And before you say, "that Republican might vote in a pro-abortion judge", you have to look at the Big Picture. A Republican President will more than likely nominate a moderate to conservative judge for the simple reason as to turn the Court back to the right by one judge.
So you see, you would win no matter what.
Tammy, I respect your belief completely, I am adamantly against abortion, but I am also telling you in clear terms, if we do not unite behind whomever wins the Republican nomination, the end result will make you a very unhappy American.

Tammy Bowers said...

ANY pro-choice President will make me an unhappy American. Why do you have to vote for someone who is pro-choice if you don't believe in it? Why can't we call unite behind a pro-life candidate? I think its because there are other issues more important to Christians/pro-lifers than the murdering of children. We've grown too accepting of it. I'll gladly live off my pre-raise salary (per your other post) and forego nice vacations, and I'll happily pay more in taxes and more for health care, IF it would stop the murdering of innocent tiny unborn babies.

Now, I don't think God wants us to waste our time arguing about this. I think we're supposed to build one another up. So, I'm not going to argue with you about this. And thanks for not slamming me, so I would not have to boycott your blog for a day again. I know that tortured you. NOT!